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My previous post explored the frustration I have with trying to explore my sexuality. This post will expand on it and may – depending on how inebriated I am – contain graphic content. Viewer discretion advised.

The concept of “hitting on” girls (or guys) always made me feel awkward. It seemed so demeaning. A lot of focus growing up was placed on treating girls with respect. Respect. Respect. Respect. Of course, for those who never had a chance to really explore what it meant to disrespect girls, the examples given on how to respect women (holding a door, giving gifts, remembering an anniversary) were little more than rituals to avoid social retribution for behaving badly toward women. We rarely – if ever – learned attitudes. And I think it shows; if it does not early – it does later on in marriages.

My attitude toward sex before adolescence was sort of the naive and arrogant attitude of “what the heck is people’s problem? When I get older, I’ll never be tempted by that stuff.” So my surprise and confusion in adolescence was compounded. I had sworn to myself I would never be tempted, and now I found myself turned on by the slightest show of cleavage. My erections were not solely pleasurable, but also terrifying.

I remember the first time I ever felt a sick feeling about sex. I was with my grandma on a trip and saw a sign for a strip club. I remember just feeling so sick. I wanted so bad to see that woman on the sign naked. So bad. But then I felt so repulsed by even the idea of sexuality. Somehow I felt threatened by this new desire… it upset my perfect little world.

This feeling hung on for the longest time. I was mad that sex existed. I was mad that the desires were there and so strong. I think even a small part of me was mad at God. Why the heck did I have to wait another ten years to make use of what were such strong feelings? I knew nothing of masterbation and was too scared to try anything.

My outlet was my mind. I fantasized like the hormonal boy I was. I think I had fucked every girl I knew in my mind by the time I was probably fourteen (?). In fact I remember distinctly the moment when – lying in bed – I had fantasized about a girl I knew at church and found myself struck with the thought that there was no one else I knew I could fantasize about. Suddenly I was struck with guilt. Deep, horrendous guilt. I felt like God had allowed me to fantasize about all these women just for this one moment to get my attention. I repented in tears.

For the next several years I was basically pure in mind. In fact, I remember having virtually no sexual thoughts for roughly two years in high school. I just avoided it. I had suppressed the desire so much that I would “bounce” my thoughts away from anything sexual like a virtuoso.

But this did not help my love life. I fell in love with a girl at church when I was about fifteen. Deeply, madly in love. But madly repressed and confused. By the influence of my friend Anthony and my mom I had become deeply enamored with Joshua Harris and I Kissed Dating Goodbye – to the point I would argue with others about how he was right. Dating was wrong: period. Sexual thoughts outside marriage were wrong: period. In my black and white mind no sexual thoughts were allowed. I still feel deeply wounded by this book and the horrid attitudes it taught me.

To some extent I turned into a stalker of Lydia – the girl I thought I was in love with.I had become convinced in my mind that she was the one for me, pushing away all doubts. And there were doubts, but I think I was trying to deal with my suppressed sexuality and this was the primary outlet. Lydia liked me as a friend but I think I creeped her out after I expressed interest. This is probably normal at the age of fifteen, but for me it was so frustrating because at a certain point I had convinced myself that God meant for us to be together – or something like that. This was a recipe for emotional disaster.

[I just went out for a smoke and a few thoughts occurred to me. First is how hard it is for me to even write about stuff like this. It's like a massive weight on my shoulders. I've always been an extremely sexual and sensual guy. I discovered rather quickly last year that I know how to touch a girl naturally - and was even told so by one girl I was with [I did not have to work that hard at getting a girl to orgasm and never faced the "oh, crap how do I get this bra off with one hand" thing] To some extent I think somehow I knew I was naturally strongly sexual from an early age – and knew I could pull off being a player – and my suppression was so strong that any expression of my sexuality was nipped in the bud by my overzealous Christian mind. Now, when I face my natural urges, I find myself feeling like I’ve got one foot on the gas and one foot on the brake at all times. Writing about it is something I know I need to do to get it out but it is still hard.]

For the next four to five years I was in love with this girl. Looking back, I wonder why. I think it was probably because I had suppressed my sexual urges so strongly that they all came flooding out in emotional displays. My MO was not to think about sex but just to think about love. Which definitely would come across creepy and stalkerish now that I think about it. Or gay. One of the two.

Obviously I never got what I needed sexually all through high school. I could not satisfy myself and I needed it. It was so bad I would regularly have two wet dreams a night, leading to frustration and confusion especially around the breakfast table when I would drag myself out of bed – full of guilt and confusion – with wet underwear and quite pissed. My mom was confused herself that I went through underwear so often. Yet I felt I could not talk openly about any of this with my parents so I bottled most of it inside, trying to resolve the conflict through spiritual means.

What a mess I was. And still am. Having never honestly faced myself and my sexuality I don’t know what I want, and I have never listened to my normal and natural desires as I should have. It is all quite confusing. I still find myself regularly reaching these very annoyed states and then decide to masturbate and find that everything that was bothering me suddenly goes away.

The suppression is still alive and strong. I’m trying to explore it.

More of my story later! I’m sure this will be a long series….

- Josh

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So, ’tis true. It is a miracle. I’ve been cured.

I don’t know if anyone really reads my blog anymore, but it still provides a creative outlet for me to express what I’m genuinely feeling / thinking / doing – deep in that emotive part of my soul that, quite really, had become my greatest friend during my religious years. It is good to get that out still as I learn to stop living in my head and start, well, living.

It’s been nearly two years since I left Christianity completely and like a scar the signs are still there. But over the last month I’ve been reflecting and learning how to cope. One of those ways has been this blog and just getting my thoughts out for others to hear. A deep realization was that my parents and family could not be any sort of loving, emotional support to me in anyway. Because they refuse to listen to my deepest concerns and because they cannot comprehend what I’ve gone through, I have had to learn how to be my own guidance. I have to learn to seek out people and things that will give me what I need to cope and grow. Perhaps a few bars too late in the music of my life, but I feel in a few more stanzas I’ll catch up.

But as I slowly pull my head out of the sand – or my preverbial ass – I’m beginning to feel a connection with the world that I have not felt since childhood. In a strong way I feel that Christianity – or fundamentalist religion in general – causes its converts to become emotional turtles or ostriches. They would rather pull their head in or bury it in the sand than learn how to face the realities of life. The thing is, if you pull yourself inside like that you will lose your ability to sense and feel certain things.

At this point I feel like a person who has slowly learned to pull their head out of the sand and not be scared by everything. I’m not on the defensive all the time. It is good to let life wash over you like a tide, not to hide from it. I find myself taking more risks, being more myself and feeling comfortable with it, and enjoying the company of others more.

But more than that, I feel like things taste better, smell better, and feel better than they did when I was a Christian. Somehow it was as if all the fear and worries that Christianity brought to me – at least when the Bible was taken literally and seriously – kept me from actually experiencing and enjoying life. The attitude that I was an alien to this planet – “just passing through” – from my real home of heaven had kept me from truly experiencing and enjoying every passing moment in this life.

And this is where I think the greatest signs of my healing on leaving Christianity set: in my heart. In the deepest part of myself I feel more connected with the world. I feel more thankful for the happy moments and less angry at the bad moments. Life is perfect even when it does not fit my ideal of perfection.

If my mind was a rope, it had been tangled into a thousand knots. Thanks to knowledge and an understanding of life, those knots have been consistently unraveling and I am experiencing the results – even in my dreams.

What a weird thought… that dreams can be a tell-tale sign of ones inward understanding of the world. During my teen years my dreams were almost always dark and terrifying. Then I suppressed all those fears and my dreams almost entirely went away. But in the last several months I’ve been dreaming again. Just normal, weird, and nice dreams. And I’m not alone, I’ve heard one other de-convert say the same thing happened to him when he left Christianity.

It’s as if I’m welcoming back an old friend: myself. I feel like I”m reuniting with the ‘me’ that existed before my mind was hijacked by faith and turned into a zombie.

I love it. I’ll never convince my parents or family that their wrong or trapped in a cultish belief system. But I, at least, can be free. And that makes me feel incredible.

- Josh

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A) After getting raging mad at my dad, I had to tell him basically to fuck off and I’ve decided not to contact him again and to tell him not to contact me. Maybe one of these days I’ll figure out how to deal with him, but not now. We’ve reached a point where we just don’t work.

B) I want to go visit my brother in Germany sometime this summer. We were talking and within 3 IM messages he had already brought in how God had really been blessing him… of course completely ignoring the fact that ‘God’ is treating me just as well by working things out with my new place and my job, etc. So then I told him that if I come to visit he isn’t allowed to talk to me about God unless I can debate him. He agreed, but it still left me with a stale taste in my mouth. I just can’t stand the subtle dropping of God into everything like an unwanted guest.

C) I’m getting sick of being the nice guy. It doesn’t work. Scenario: I like a girl at work but feel she is out of my league. So, like clockwork I resort to playing the nice guy type, get hooked in, really like her and then start to freak and get mad when I find out she doesn’t like me. Selfish? Yeah. But I can’t let myself continue to be the guy who is crushing on girls endlessly (years, my man, years) only to have my heart handed back to me time and time again. Just won’t do.

D) I’m getting bored at work. I don’t feel like I’m learning anything anymore… it’s just the same old, same old again and again.

Anyway, so that’s my life these days. I’m not really sure but I feel like I’m finding a new grounding. Not sure in what, but it’s definitely there. I think my new grounding is in just not caring anymore. I takes too much energy and for the most part people have to figure out there own problems by themselves. Maybe it doesn’t mean I don’t care, it just means I’m learning what to care about and not giving a shit about anything else.

- Josh

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So I just had one of my epiphanous moments.

First of all, let me apologize to anyone who might be reading this and I didn’t get back to your recent comments. Then second of all, let me say I just really didn’t feel like responding. I love you, but this site is mostly for me because I need therapy. This was never about you, come to think of it.

Tonight I once again got super pissed at my dad. It just sortof wells up from my obsessive nature and explodes into my mind. And then I slowly let it swish around like an Icelandic volcano and spew its ash all over an unsent email. Thankfully, the ash grounded the email and it never left the airport.

Yes, indeed – something was brewing deep within my mind and then it clicked.

Nice guys do finish last and there is a solid reason.

All my life I had been taught to be humble to the extent that anything I really wanted I never truly pursued. This came to friendships, girls – even jobs. It’s just by some fluke that I got the jobs that I did, come to think of it. I didn’t really care.

And that’s the thing. I didn’t really care. If I didn’t get the job it was no big deal: my worth and livelihood didn’t ever depend on getting the job. But as soon as I start caring about something – desperately wanting something – I tend to either:

a) Clam up and tell all the wrong people

b) Get all ‘nice guy’

c) Suppress it completely

d) Be honest and all feely to hope someone else gives me what I want because they see how good I am

It’s like I’m scared to really say what I want and pursue it. It’s like I expect it to just fall in my lap without much work: like I’m expecting God to just give me everything I really want if I’m nice enough (Ps. 37:4).

And so, every single fucking time I really want a girl I don’t get her. Every time. Without fail. And I always get the girls I don’t want.

The only pattern? I didn’t care about the girls I didn’t want and I did care about the girls I did. Like clockwork.

Now, here’s the genius (because yes, it is genius). Oh, you will love me.

Why is this the case? Oh, it’s so simple it’s marvelous.

Humans who care most about themselves are most likely to survive. And women who like men who are most likely to survive are most likely to raise a family. This is probably where we get the mantra that women like bad boys.

But that is only have the truth. There is a catch! Humans who let others know that they only care about themselves are less likely to survive and reproduce. Follow? So you have to be deceptive.

As such, the only way to be truly sexy is to not give a shit. You honestly and truly have to not give a shit, because as soon as you really don’t give a shit you are neither a threat to any other humans and you are most likely to survive.

Why the hell do you think every model shot looks like the model is happy, independent, and not giving a shit? Because it’s sexy. And it’s sexy because it’s full of life. And it’s full of life because there is nothing needy about it.

And as an added bonus when you don’t give a shit you are happier. Why? Because you are never disappointed because you didn’t give a shit in the first place.

So, what does this have to do with my dad? Well, all this time I’ve been living under this delusion that my dad really cares about me and it occurred to me tonight that he doesn’t – and he never truly has. My dad’s behavior only ever says he really only cares about himself – regardless of what he has ever said. It now makes sense. And the bizarre thing is that I’m no longer sad about it. That behavior is his prerogative. And now I don’t mind so much because even if he has convinced himself that he does care about me, at this point there is no genetic incentive for him to truly care about me. After all, if he did, he would listen. But furthermore, I shouldn’t expect him to care and ironically as soon as I lose that expectation I no longer care much myself.

Anyway, I’m reaching a point where I’m going to do whatever I want whenever I want with whomever I want and frankly, I don’t give a damn.

I feel better already.

- Josh

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Where I think I might be going crazy.

This last week has nearly driven me insane. I’m just going to let it all out here because I can’t seem to find anyway who truly understands. They say people who are extremely smart tend to insanity more… and it makes sense. Everyone else drives us insane.

I have so many moments where I desperately try to help others, where I try to get others to understand, where I spend an inordinate amount of time boiling down so much information into a simple principle that tends to work – only to find that no one seems to care.

Alright, I’m smart. I know it. I don’t think I’m all that smart (from my everyday perspective) because I know all my failures but for the most part I’m figuring out that I’m regularly 10 steps ahead of everyone else around me. That’s fine. That’s cool.

So now what?

I daydream about living on the beach, or just doing nothing, or finding some posh apartment with a deck and just partying every night. What does this mean?

I’ve spent most of my life conforming… expending endless energy hiding what I really think from people so that I can fit in. Most of this energy has been spent trying to be what everyone else thinks is humble or godly or good or right or socially acceptable.

And I’m sick of it. I’m exhausted of those voices telling me to behave a certain way or to avoid certain behavior. I can’t stand it anymore.

So I don’t know what this means, but whatever.

- Josh

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I sit here at work, slightly bored but with tons to do – waiting for my boss to respond to a phone call so he can make some changes to some server-side crap so I can finish some client-side crap. Yay for my life.

I was just perusing Facebook. So many old friends who are moving on with their lives as if my tortuous leaving the faith did not matter. It bothers me that in their worldview I am going to hell and it does not seem to bother them. When I was a Christian it bothered me something awful that other people were potentially going to hell. But how many people today care about me?

I think I completely overestimated the love of Christians – they are honestly no different than anyone else.

But the truth is that I don’t want them to care about that so much as I wish they cared about the truth. I wish they did… but they don’t. Their entire mind and worldview is consumed with the underlying assumption they already have it and nothing anyone – especially an apostate like me – can do will even remotely influence their thinking. They are consumed with the feelings and results of Christianity so much that they feel it is fruitless to inspect the foundation. The feelings and the results are the proof. They don’t need fact. They just want to be happy and comfortable – just like everyone else.

Then it bothers me that I love my life. I love my friends. I love my job. I love the world I live in. I love them. But they won’t genuinely accept any of this as truth because they must, they *must* believe that I am deeply unhappy inside… empty… void. When I’m not. There is no God-shaped hole that needs filling.

Will they believe me? No. They won’t. They’ll call me a liar and slander me in their hearts – like they have done and continue to do over and over. I hate that.

Honestly, the only big thing that really bothers me these days is knowing what they think about me. Or that they are not thinking about me at all. I want to just forget about all of them completely. The other day I told a friend that I felt like an orphan sometimes… and honestly I felt happy about it. I would rather just move on so much that I feel like I don’t even have a family than deal with the emotions of knowing I have a family that deeply believes I am going to hell and is unwilling to seriously talk to me about it. They feel they have the “good news”. Good news? Who are you kidding?

I can’t trust the supposed love of any individual who is unwilling to meet me half-way.

But beyond that, I’m happy. So happy. I feel free, so free.

So if any of my family is reading, please… pushing aside my obvious frustration with your beliefs… take some serious time to get to know me and what I think.

I’m willing to admit you might be right, are you willing to do unto others as Jesus commanded and admit that I might have been right? And then are you willing to figure a way to determine who is right? And then do you have the moral gumption to actually get off your ass and do something about it? Or are you as shallow and petty and comfortable in your moral towers as the Pharisees?

You might be surprised at how some of you have treated me and if you only took a moment you would realize that all my anger this last two years is justified.

I’m still waiting.

Are any of you brave enough to face what I know about your faith and loving enough to see past the obvious hurt, calloused, and bruised exterior to see that inside my heart still wants the best for you?

I’m completely alone before my own family and the only ones who listen are not from my hometown.

- Jesus

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Dinesh D’souza

Le Chauffeur Chicago is known for its storms and this last Tuesday was no exception. Dinesh and Loftus were scheduled for a debate that evening and beforehand Brandt and I were going to meet up with some other fellow skeptics and discuss the meaning of life, etc. Due to some extenuating circumstances and the weather, [...]

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Yes, yes I did. Two full hours in the car with him and Brandt (The Jesting Fool)… including some in car debate. I’ll plan on posting details later. Nice guy… doesn’t know very much about the Bible (I had to explain to him what 1 Corinthians 15 says), but he is a formidable debater. As [...]

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I‘m planning on attending this debate. Right now it looks like we are having a small group of us meet up beforehand in Champaign, IL. Details to be determined. If you are going to attend and would like to meet up with us, let me know. – Josh

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A while ago, when I was reading up on the atheist / theist debate, I remember coming across multiple instances where an atheist would say:

“God is non-answer.”

As a Christian I remember going “what? That’s a clever ruse. Just say it isn’t an answer and dismiss it off-hand?” I honestly thought it was a stupid, clever trick to dismiss God.

But then I’ve been thinking about it. “God did everything” or “God allowed everything” or “God made everything” or “God is everywhere” or “God designed everything” or “God has every answer” or “God knows” are not very useful statements. They are just as useful as “Satan is the source of all lies” or “sin is the source of all suffering” or “government corruption is caused by greed”. For, if we were to honestly apply those answers in our daily lives, they would get us no where.

~

For each question below, consider the usefulness of the answers “God”, “Satan”, or “Sin”. Then consider the usefulness of the other answers. Then ask yourself: would ignoring the answers “God”, “Satan”, and “Sin” make any difference in my life?


Q1: Where do babies come from?

A1: God

A2: Sex

Q2: What causes earthquakes?

A1: Sin

A2: Satan

A3: Natural causes that can be studied to help us avoid earthquake prone areas.

Note: if you answer A1 or A2, what method are you going to use to determine which one is the correct answer?

Q3: Where does lightning come from?

A1: Satan

A2: God

A3: Built up electric charges between two large bodies, like a cloud and the earth.

Note: if you answer A1 or A2, what method are you going to use to determine which one is the correct answer? Also note that (A1) and (A2) are polar opposites, so saying “it could be either one” is quite a difference.

Q4: What causes illnesses?

A1: Satan (attack)

A2: God (testing)

A3: Sin (punishment)

A4: Bacteria and viruses that can be avoided by excessive contact with the sick, regular washing of the hands, and medicinal treatments.

Note: if you answer A1, A2, or A3, what method are you going to use to determine which one is the correct answer? Keep in mind that A1, A2, and A3 are radically different answers… it would be best to have a method to determine which one is accurate!

Q5: Why is my marriage falling apart?

A1: Satan is attacking us

A2: My spouse is sinning

A3: I am sinning

A4: I am having an affair

A5: I am lying about my affair and my spouse is catching on…

Out of all these answer, the most practical one is (A5), all the other answers are pretty meaningless, even if they could be said to be “true”. And keep in mind, that saying “having an affair is sinful” is a completely meaningless statement. It doesn’t matter whether having an affair is sinful or not, what matters is that having the affair and lying about it are the cause of the marriage falling apart. We are assuming here that a marriage falling apart is a bad thing. (A5) is the only meaningful and useful answer out of all of them – and it says nothing about whether Satan or sin is involved! (A5) just says “having an affair and lying about it is causing your marriage to fall apart”. End of story. There is no need to insert a spiritual commentary at all and the answer reveals itself without any reference to sin or Satan. The solution? Stop having the affair if you want your marriage to stop falling apart!

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Answering “God”, “Sin”, or “Satan” to everyday questions may be convenient by categorizing an item as caused by something benevolent (God), caused by ourselves (Sin), or caused by something malevolent (Satan). However, beyond that the answers are completely meaningless. These answers simply give us a way to categorize and personify the source of an item in question. But that is all these answers do.

“God”, “Satan”, and “Sin” are useless non-answers that are completely subjective depending on the mood, the neuroticism, and the doctrinal standing of the individual throwing them around as answers. They are completely useless answers in our daily lives, which is why non-theists can get along just fine without them.

- Josh

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