Comments for Methodical Musings http://methodicalmusings.com One man's martyr is another man's asshole. Which are you? Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:51:51 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Dinesh D’souza by Joshua http://methodicalmusings.com/2010/02/13/dinesh-dsouza/#comment-1088 Joshua Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:51:51 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?p=727#comment-1088 Darius, I should probably clarify that Dinesh said he was unwilling to debate Bart on issues related to Biblical veracity - Bart's area of expertise. Thanks for the heads up. He did mention something about the debate this Fall. Your comment got stuck in moderation for some reason. I just happened to notice it by accident. Maybe it's the links... hmm Josh Darius,

I should probably clarify that Dinesh said he was unwilling to debate Bart on issues related to Biblical veracity – Bart’s area of expertise. Thanks for the heads up. He did mention something about the debate this Fall.

Your comment got stuck in moderation for some reason. I just happened to notice it by accident. Maybe it’s the links… hmm

Josh

]]> Comment on Dinesh D’souza by 4riozs http://methodicalmusings.com/2010/02/13/dinesh-dsouza/#comment-1085 4riozs Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:44:50 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?p=727#comment-1085 You should definitely debate him. I'd like to see it. You should definitely debate him. I’d like to see it.

]]> Comment on Dinesh D’souza by atimetorend http://methodicalmusings.com/2010/02/13/dinesh-dsouza/#comment-1084 atimetorend Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:24:11 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?p=727#comment-1084 What a unique experience! From what you write it sounds like he is a thoughtful individual, even if his debating points are not that thoughtful. It makes me think of how easy it can be to compartmentalize our thoughts. Apologetics can make one point here with a bad analogy and one point there with another one, which might even contradict the first. It can somehow all seem to hold together, as long as you don't take a couple of steps back to see the bigger picture of what is really being built. I didn't know he was Catholic. Their apologetics can be so much different than Evangelical, it really seems like a much different way of understanding "faith," and certainly use of the bible. But then Catholics and Evangelicals can find common ground in making analogies like the "Tom" story, or dismissing secular thought in universities like that. The Ann Coulter connection probably speaks volumes... Great post, thanks for writing that up. What a unique experience! From what you write it sounds like he is a thoughtful individual, even if his debating points are not that thoughtful. It makes me think of how easy it can be to compartmentalize our thoughts. Apologetics can make one point here with a bad analogy and one point there with another one, which might even contradict the first. It can somehow all seem to hold together, as long as you don’t take a couple of steps back to see the bigger picture of what is really being built.

I didn’t know he was Catholic. Their apologetics can be so much different than Evangelical, it really seems like a much different way of understanding “faith,” and certainly use of the bible. But then Catholics and Evangelicals can find common ground in making analogies like the “Tom” story, or dismissing secular thought in universities like that. The Ann Coulter connection probably speaks volumes…

Great post, thanks for writing that up.

]]> Comment on Dinesh D’souza by Brandt http://methodicalmusings.com/2010/02/13/dinesh-dsouza/#comment-1082 Brandt Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:32:06 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?p=727#comment-1082 My God. He dated Ann Coulter? Craaaaaaazzzyy.... Good extension of the "Tom" analogy, by the way! My God. He dated Ann Coulter? Craaaaaaazzzyy….

Good extension of the “Tom” analogy, by the way!

]]> Comment on Dinesh D’souza by Darius http://methodicalmusings.com/2010/02/13/dinesh-dsouza/#comment-1081 Darius Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:16:26 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?p=727#comment-1081 Dinesh has already debated Bart Ehrman (Oct. 7, 2009). http://dailytarheel.com/content/ehrman-and-d’souza-debate-suffering-existence-god He's going to debate him again Nov. 11, 2010. http://dineshdsouza.com/events/calendar.html Dinesh has already debated Bart Ehrman (Oct. 7, 2009).

http://dailytarheel.com/content/ehrman-and-d’souza-debate-suffering-existence-god

He’s going to debate him again Nov. 11, 2010.

http://dineshdsouza.com/events/calendar.html

]]> Comment on Bible Error by Joshua http://methodicalmusings.com/bible-error/#comment-1080 Joshua Sun, 14 Feb 2010 04:19:55 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?page_id=111#comment-1080 patrick, I appreciate the reference. Before I spend $20 on yet another Christian book, I would like an answer to a simple question: Does this book contain a fallible human interpretation of the passages in question? If the answer is yes, how is it any close to the truth than my assessment that there is an error? If it is fallible, than it may very well not contain a valid answer. Furthermore, did the authors of the book start out by assuming Ezekiel does not contain an error and then invent a harmony to make the apparent error go away (by the process of intelligent human invention), or did they honestly start without bias and work toward discovering the explanation that is least tedious? I just threw away 100's of dollars of Christian books - many of them containing commentary and interpretations that contradicted each other. How would this book differ? I don't want to find a resolution, I want to find the truth. There is a difference. patrick, I appreciate the reference. Before I spend $20 on yet another Christian book, I would like an answer to a simple question:

Does this book contain a fallible human interpretation of the passages in question?

If the answer is yes, how is it any close to the truth than my assessment that there is an error? If it is fallible, than it may very well not contain a valid answer.

Furthermore, did the authors of the book start out by assuming Ezekiel does not contain an error and then invent a harmony to make the apparent error go away (by the process of intelligent human invention), or did they honestly start without bias and work toward discovering the explanation that is least tedious?

I just threw away 100’s of dollars of Christian books – many of them containing commentary and interpretations that contradicted each other. How would this book differ?

I don’t want to find a resolution, I want to find the truth. There is a difference.

]]> Comment on About How I Drove Dinesh D’Souza to the Debate by Oz http://methodicalmusings.com/2010/02/11/about-how-i-drove-dinesh-dsouza-to-the-debate/#comment-1079 Oz Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:13:30 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?p=722#comment-1079 Come on, don't leave us hanging! Give us the gory details... Come on, don’t leave us hanging! Give us the gory details…

]]> Comment on Bible Error by patrick http://methodicalmusings.com/bible-error/#comment-1078 patrick Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:23:00 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?page_id=111#comment-1078 Hi Joshua, For starters, check out G.K. Beale's <i>The Temple and the Church's Mission</i>. It's relatively cheap (currently ~$20 @ Amazon.com). Or, since your profile says you're in the Chicago area, you can borrow it via a local seminary's library (e.g. TEDS, Wheaton). Patrick Hi Joshua,

For starters, check out G.K. Beale’s The Temple and the Church’s Mission. It’s relatively cheap (currently ~$20 @ Amazon.com). Or, since your profile says you’re in the Chicago area, you can borrow it via a local seminary’s library (e.g. TEDS, Wheaton).

Patrick

]]> Comment on About How I Drove Dinesh D’Souza to the Debate by atimetorend http://methodicalmusings.com/2010/02/11/about-how-i-drove-dinesh-dsouza-to-the-debate/#comment-1077 atimetorend Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:28:00 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?p=722#comment-1077 Nice score on the chauffeuring! Looking forward to the follow up post. That is simply amazing that such a famous apologist (even author) would be unknowledgeable about the bible that way. Sincere Christian who just doesn't care? Or is so good at debating that he has never needed to develop his game that way? Would be curious to hear your take on why he is that way. Nice score on the chauffeuring! Looking forward to the follow up post.

That is simply amazing that such a famous apologist (even author) would be unknowledgeable about the bible that way. Sincere Christian who just doesn’t care? Or is so good at debating that he has never needed to develop his game that way? Would be curious to hear your take on why he is that way.

]]> Comment on About How I Drove Dinesh D’Souza to the Debate by Laura http://methodicalmusings.com/2010/02/11/about-how-i-drove-dinesh-dsouza-to-the-debate/#comment-1076 Laura Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:50:20 +0000 http://methodicalmusings.com/?p=722#comment-1076 Oh, wow! That's so interesting! And interesting he didn't know about Paul vs. Peter and Peter (or maybe it was Paul?) vs. James. Well, now he knows! Oh, wow! That’s so interesting! And interesting he didn’t know about Paul vs. Peter and Peter (or maybe it was Paul?) vs. James. Well, now he knows!

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